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  SURPRISED AND SHOCKED

  by Raphael in

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  my dad passed away in december and i had to fly to south africa for his funeral.

  both my parents and just about all the extended family are devout witnesses.

  the funeral talk was held at the local kh.

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  Vernon Williams

  Empathy on the loss of your Dad: I lost mine in eighty two.

  I am glad the JWs at the funeral went past cult control and, for a momment, demonstrated human kindness.

  Now, things can get back to normal......

  Take care,

  V
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  virtual kingdom halls, the future of dubdom?

  by Mysterious in

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  http://virtualkingdomhall.com/enter.html.

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  just think no more buildings, land taxes, travelling speaker expenses, potential bad association, deviation from the main script..is this the future or will they continue to be technophobes?.

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  Vernon Williams

  I liked this paragraph in the About Section:

  You can even protect your children by creating a secure place for them to meetup and talk with brothers and sisters they know and trust

  Well, that is one thing they can not do in the "real" enviroment.......

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  Life lost

  by Phil in

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  2. friends

  i have previously posted on the subject of finding people who could help me get some testimonials from experienced jws who have been shunned by friends and family.

  this was my way of getting my daughter to wake up to the realities of what is going on with the organization she is associated with.

  much to my sadness, i have been notified by her husband that she died this morning of lung cancer.

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  Phil,

  Your attempts were with love and concern. Being new to the Board, this is the first time I have noticed a post by you and a tragic one at that......

  Wishing you comfort in this time of loss,

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  To feel you "can"

  by Mysterious in

  1. jw
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  what a remarkable feeling on leaving the organization, and yet a bizzare one.

  to have the feeling that you "can" do anything you want.

  that there is time, energy and resources to devote to achieving the goals you set out for yourself.

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  Vernon Williams

  Freedom is the opportunity to do as you ought....not the enviroment to do as you want.

  This has always been an interesting thought to me.....

  Wishing you the best in all your endevours and goals,

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  Please put your JW heads back on for a moment... (Memorial Meal)

  by AlphaOmega in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something has been bugging me for ages about the non-participation of r&f jws in the memorial meal (sounds like a mcdonalds deal) !.

  i've just worked out what it is.... only the "anointed" can partake of the emblems.. but at the original meal, as instituted by jesus, no one was anointed.

  the anointing came at pentecost, after he had died !.

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  If you think you are cross eyed on this: wait till you try to sort out the difference between the "faithful slave" and the "domestics" in the first century! :-)

  Oh....the "Memorial" is defined as "the bastardized expression of the Lord's Meal as celebrated by the JWs anusly anually." Really, why try to sort out Rutherford's booze induced, late night, speculations.....that buzzing in his ear....what is the angel saying???

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  Posting Here: secretly or openly?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. social
  2. family

  just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?

  i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.

  if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?

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  Lore,

  How wonderful it would be to be your age and "aware!"

  Wishing you wisdom and progress,

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  Posting Here: secretly or openly?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. social
  2. family

  just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?

  i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.

  if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?

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  Vernon Williams

  Vernon Willliams, 423 W. Nellie, Monett, MO 65708

  Openly.....

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  Non-JW Family

  by Wordly Andre in

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  2. family

  growing up, we were only allowed to associate with our jw side of the family, over the past 10+ years i have been getting closer to my "worldly family' all i have to say is man i didn't know i had such loving, normal family.

  it was a little too late when i started to visit my grandfather, he died shortly after my attempts to connect.

  however, it was really weird at first, getting to know cousins, aunts and uncles who i've always had such limited contact with, i feel really pissed off about it, i have such a great family that i missed out on, i am now writing once a week to my uncle who is in iraq, and trying to keep contact with everyone, and even meet some cousins who i never met before, but i feel like someone who arrived late to the party.. does anyone else have the same kind of story?

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  Vernon Williams

  My extended family are not JWs. My wife's the same. We missed out on so much focusing on the "relationships" in the Org. What a missed opportunnity! Our families are wonderful and interesting and supportive: all that is, mostly, a lost cause for us...too late.

  Connect and build with what you have in the time left....

  Wishing you the best,

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  A BIG Thank You to You All!!

  by R.F. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i've been posting here on jwd for only a month and a half or so, but i would like to give everyone here a big thank you!!.

  i know i've come here and it seems like mostly venting from me, but it means alot for you all to listen and give much advise.

  it's kinda like big sister or big brother....you've been there and done that(still doing it for many of you) and your giving little brother valuable advise.. there has been so much to go on in my life in the last month or so that i've never been through, but i'd first say that i've gotten this unbelieveable strength from god, along with your helping hands along the way.

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  RF,

  The Cool Part: this is just the START of a new section of This Journey!

  Best wishes....keep posting......

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  Update! Drew Sagan is no longer a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.

  per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.

  they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.

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  Drew and wife,

  Congrads. "Free at last.....free at last......."

  You guys did the best you could.....

  The Elders did not pray when they met with me, either. Refused. Considering the group: not that strange. One of the things that mark the pastors I enteract with is this: they pray A :LOT.

  Keep the board posted on your progress.

  Yours in this Journey,

  V